Don’t fear, we haven’t seen the final of Ed Lazowska.
After practically a half-century in pc science on the College of Washington — sure, he arrived within the Seattle area earlier than Microsoft did — the longtime champion of the UW’s Allen College simply retired from the college, fulfilling a promise to his household to log out from his official duties when he reached 75.
However he’s not fully shutting issues down. The veteran pc science professor and distributed techniques researcher — who has spent many years on the intersection of Seattle tech, training, and civic life — will proceed to be concerned in a wide range of initiatives in the neighborhood.
That features instructing a preferred UW entrepreneurship course with Greg Gottesman of Pioneer Sq. Labs, chairing PSL’s advisory board, and serving on the board of the Allen Institute for AI because it navigates the open-source AI frontier.
“My purpose in retirement is to really feel much less accountable,” he defined. The thought is to “lower the extent to which I believe that each little drawback is my drawback,” he stated. “I’ll proceed to give attention to the large issues — and there are many these to maintain me busy.”
We sat down with Lazowska for this week’s GeekWire Podcast — asking the prolific emailer and diligent bicycle commuter to mirror on his profession, the evolution of the trade, the expansion of the Seattle area, and the way forward for training within the age of synthetic intelligence.
Sure, Lazowska agrees, coding is lifeless, a minimum of to the extent that it represents “the interpretation of someone else’s design into one thing executable.”
Nonetheless, he stated, “Design just isn’t lifeless, working in groups just isn’t lifeless, determining what issues have to be solved — and what the appropriate method is to tackling these issues — just isn’t lifeless, and understanding how people are going to make use of and be influenced by digital expertise just isn’t lifeless.”
Which means universities have to focus much less on churning out coders and extra on getting ready college students to assume critically, work collaboratively, and adapt to fixed change — which has been the Allen College’s method all alongside.
“This can be a area that’s at all times modified sooner than another area, besides perhaps for contemporary biology,” he stated. “It’s a area through which educating college students for lifelong studying is extra vital than another area.
It’s additionally more durable than it’s ever been.

As the sector expands and grows extra advanced, Lazowska worries that college students — particularly on the graduate degree — have gotten so specialised that they miss alternatives for the sort of cross-pollination that sparks breakthroughs. One indication: pc science college students are much less prone to attend talks by consultants in adjoining fields.
“The actually attention-grabbing stuff at all times takes place at these interstitial areas,” he stated.
The late Steve Jobs was the maybe probably the most iconic instance of that, in the best way that he blended expertise and the liberal arts for most of the product breakthroughs that put Apple on the forefront of tech.
Because it occurs, Lazowska helped Jobs’ alma mater, Oregon’s Reed School, arrange a pc science program when demand for the key rose following Jobs’ loss of life, from college students seeking to observe in his footsteps.
“They didn’t perceive that what he realized at Reed was dope and calligraphy,” Lazowska stated.
Driving the elevated specialization by right this moment’s pc science college students, he stated, is a rising want for college kids to develop superior experience by drilling down into particular areas. That can solely grow to be extra true as entry-level work more and more will get consumed by synthetic intelligence.
“The résumés that get you your first job right this moment are the résumés that will have gotten you promoted to your second job 10 years in the past,” he stated.
His expertise with college students additionally makes him optimistic. Groups within the entrepreneurship class, Lazowska stated, usually got down to construct techniques or resolve issues that appear wildly unrealistic firstly. After a couple of weeks, actuality units in — however then, most of the time, they discover a option to ship one thing past what anybody anticipated.
“The wonderful thing about college students is that they don’t know what they will’t do,” he stated. “What now we have to do in training just isn’t beat that out of them.”
Lazowska has served in a wide range of nationwide roles — together with co-authoring influential Nationwide Academies research on computing and innovation, advising federal analysis applications, and serving to form nationwide expertise coverage.

However he has made an particularly deep affect in Washington state and the Seattle area, together with roles as a frontrunner, board member or advisor to a wide range of organizations over time, together with the Expertise Alliance, Washington Expertise Trade Affiliation, and the UW eScience Institute, which he co-founded.
He recalled the Nineties-era journey by Seattle leaders to the Bay Space, led by the Better Seattle Chamber of Commerce to review how Silicon Valley approached innovation. In seeing first-hand the system that led to the Bay Space’s dominance, they realized that Seattle’s comparably modest progress had been largely unintended.
“Our secret to success was Invoice Boeing moved right here, and Invoice Gates and Paul Allen grew up right here, and it’s a pleasant place to reside, and we haven’t screwed it up too badly,” Lazowska stated. “This was not a method.”
The Expertise Alliance emerged from that recognition, with early management from Invoice Gates Sr., Susannah Malarkey, Tom Alberg and others who wished to create a extra intentional method to constructing the area’s tech prowess.
Most of all, Lazowska sees himself as a instructor. Early in his profession, he recalled, he would verify “researcher” on the playing cards tucked into magazines that requested for readers’ occupations. It took a pair years earlier than he began indicating that he was an educator — which he had come to know as his true position on the UW.
“I spotted that that’s why I used to be there,” he stated. “I can ship folks out that change the world.”
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